Brooklyn College Ba Md Program Essays About Education

What is the B.A.-M.D. program?

The B.A.-M.D. program is an eight-year combined bachelor's/M.D. program. Students in the program must complete four years of undergraduate studies at Brooklyn College, followed by four years of medical studies at SUNY Downstate's College of Medicine.

Who is eligible to apply to the B.A.-M.D. program?

High school seniors currently attending high school in New York State only and are either permanent residents or U.S. citizens are eligible to apply. High school graduates are not eligible.

Can students transfer to the B.A.-M.D. program?

No.

When do applications open? When does the application process close?

The online application opens on September 1 and closes on December 15.

Can paper applications be submitted?

No.

Can a student apply to other Honors Academy programs at Brooklyn College, in addition to the B.A.-M.D. program?

Yes. Students can also apply to Macaulay Honors College and the Scholars Program. Students are permitted to be members of both Macaulay Honors College and the B.A.-M.D. program, or the Scholars and the B.A.-M.D. programs.

How many applicants are there each year for the B.A.-M.D. program?

There are usually between 250 and 300 applicants.

How many applicants are invited for an interview?

Approximately 100.

How many applicants are accepted each year?

Fifteen.

What criteria are used to judge B.A.-M.D. applicants?

The program is seeking academically strong students who have a wide range of interests. Academic strength criteria include SAT or ACT scores, high school GPA, AP courses completed or in progress, Regents scores, etc. Breadth of interests is captured by a well-organized résumé.

Is the B.A.-M.D. program a scholarship program?

Yes. B.A.-M.D. students receive up to $4,000 each year. If a student in the B.A.-M.D. program is also a member of the Macaulay Honors College, that student will receive a full-tuition scholarship.

Are B.A.-M.D. students guaranteed a seat in SUNY Downstate's College of Medicine?

B.A.-M.D. students are required to maintain a 3.50 overall GPA and a 3.50 science GPA. In addition, students must take the MCAT for the first time during the summer following the junior year and must achieve a score on each section and a total score that meets the minimum requirements set by the College of Medicine. If a B.A.-M.D. student cannot maintain a 3.50 overall GPA or science GPA or cannot achieve the minimum scores on the MCAT after three attempts, the student will be dismissed from the program.

Do B.A.-M.D. students attend classes together?

Not necessarily. Each student has a unique program and may or may not be in class with other B.A.-M.D. students. Even though the science courses taken by each B.A.-M.D. student in the freshman year are the same, a particular student may be in a problem-solving session (recitation) or lab that does not contain any other B.A.-M.D. freshmen. In later years, the programs of B.A.-M.D. students diverge even further, because each student has chosen a specific major that may differ from that of the other members of his or her class. In addition, general education courses can be taken in any order, so, again, the programs of members of a particular B.A.-M.D. class may differ.

Frequently Asked Questions
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How many years does it take to complete the B.A.-M.D. Program?
It is an eight year program, four years at Brooklyn College and four years at SUNY Downstate Medical Center.

Does the B.A.-M.D. Program restrict its students to any particular fields of medicine?
No.

Does the B.A.-M.D. Program require its graduates to practice in any particular location for any specified length of time?
No.

Who is eligible to apply to the B.A.-M.D. Program?
The B.A.-M.D. Program is geared to students in the New York area.  Applicants should be high school seniors.  We recommend that our applicants have a high school academic average of at least 90, and we also recommend that they have at least 1200 as the sum of their reading and mathematics scores on the SAT Reasoning Test (SAT I).

Can students transfer to the B.A.-M.D. Program?
The B.A.-M.D. Program does not accept transfer students.  Students who have already attended college, whether at Brooklyn College or elsewhere, are not eligible to apply.

Can a student who has been admitted to the B.A.-M.D. Program defer entrance into the program?
No, acceptees must begin in the fall semester immediately following their acceptance, or they forfeit their acceptance.

What is the cost of the Program?
B.A.-M.D. students receive a scholarship during their four years at Brooklyn College, and this scholarship completely covers the cost of tuition for New York State residents.  As far as the medical school years, the tuition for SUNY Downstate was $18,800 for New York State residents in the 2005-2006 academic year.  There were additional student fees totalling $390.  For comparison, in the same academic year New York University School of Medicine charged $30,625 and $4,550 for tuition and fees, respectively; Harvard Medical School charged $35,800 and $1,818, respectively.*

*Numbers taken from Medical School Admissions Requirements, 2007-2008, Association of American Medical Colleges.

How many students apply for the fifteen places in each entering class?
302 students applied for admission to the 2007 entering class.

How many students are offered an interview?
We interviewed ninety students for the 2007 entering class.

What is the time schedule for the admissions process?
Applications are due December 31.  We conduct interviews in March and begin making admissions decisions shortly thereafter.

What is the relationship between the B.A.-M.D. Program and the Macaulay Honors College?
The Macaulay Honors College is a completely separate program, although many B.A.-M.D. students also participate in the Macaulay Honors College. If you want to apply to the Macaulay Honors College, you must submit the Macaulay Honors College Application rather than the regular CUNY Freshman Admission Application. Both regular and Macaulay Honors College applications can be obtained from Brooklyn College's Admissions Information Center. The word honors causes confusion because the B.A.-M.D. Program is part of the Brooklyn College Honors Academy. It is very easy for students to complete the BA-MD program while being a part of the Macaulay Honors College as well. Please contact current students if you have any questions at bamdstudentcommittee@gmail.com.

Do B.A.-M.D. students have to take the MCAT?
Yes, in preparation for the Medical Licensing Exams that begin with the Step One exam at the end of the sixth year in the program, B.A.-M.D. students are required, during their Brooklyn College years, to take the Medical College Admissions Test (MCAT).  However, they need only score a 9 out of 15 on each of the verbal, biological sciences, and physical sciences sections of the test.  Students may retake the MCAT, but they must eventually score 9 or better in each section during a single administration of the test.

Do B.A.-M.D. students have their own separate classes at Brooklyn College?
The only class taken exclusively by B.A.-M.D. students is the senior seminar focusing on urban community health.  B.A.-M.D. students also take certain humanities classes in special honors sections.

Do students in the B.A.-M.D. Program receive credit for high school AP exams?
The B.A.-M.D. Program generally follows the AP policies of Brooklyn College, and according to these policies students receive Brooklyn College credit if they score sufficiently high on a given AP exam.  With AP chemistry and physics, the B.A.-M.D. Program has a special policy: students may accept credit for Chemistry 1, Chemistry 2, Physics 1, and/or Physics 2 according to Brooklyn College's AP policies.  However, if a student accepts AP credit for a given one of these classes, B.A.-M.D. Program rules stipulate that the student must instead take an upper level course in that science.  Students may opt to decline the credit for which they are eligible.  For example, a student with a 4 or 5 on the AP chemistry exam is eligible to receive AP credit for Chemistry 1 and Chemistry 2, but the student may decline this credit and take Chem 1 and Chem 2.

What is the housing situation in the B.A.-M.D. Program?
Brooklyn College has recently built residence halls near campus. Students whose families live far from the College may choose to live in these residence halls or, as many of our students do, rent an apartment in the nearby neighborhoods. SUNY Downstate also has dormitories for its medical students. These dorms are directly across from the Medical Center.

Is it possible to commute to Brooklyn College from outside of New York City?
Students commute from as far as Long Island.  Some of these commuters take the Long Island Railroad to Flatbush Avenue Station in Brooklyn, and from there it is a twenty minute subway ride on the 2 or 5 trains to Flatbush Avenue / Brooklyn College terminal.  For drivers, there is both free and metered parking around the school.  Some residents in the neighborhood rent out their driveways.  One B.A.-M.D. student who commutes by car from Long Island says, "Street parking is very manageable.  It is a safe neighborhood so don't worry about your car being broken into.  Personally, I have never had any problems, and I've been driving for the past three and a half years.  Students always manage to find a parking spot.  It's just a matter of how far you are going to walk.  The farthest I ever parked was about a 15-20 minute walk."


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